7/12/2007

The reluctant Calvinist.

So, I'm a firm believer in the doctrines of grace. But my header says that I'm reluctant about it. I thought I'd briefly explain why, because it's really simple.

It's called pride. I found it really hard to believe that my salvation didn't rest on me. I was fine that it was mostly God's work, but I really wanted to have a little bit of it on me (the deciding portion, ultimately) because I couldn't see another way to be motivated to live the Christian life.

Let's be candid, the Christian walk is not an easy one. I always laugh when an atheist suggests it's my crutch, and I point out that it's not normal practice for the crutch to hold you up and also smack you over the head repeatedly and painfully, which is often what my faith does to me.

There was a time when I, quite unconsciously, believed that I had to be good enough to be saved. Now, I wouldn't have phrased it like that. I knew that no-one is 'good enough'. But I felt you had to be at least trying to be good. If that wasn't the deciding factor, I reasoned, then how would I motivate myself on this difficult walk?

The irony is that, at the time, I wasn't actually applying the scriptures to my life in any tangible way anyway. I looked and acted pretty much like any worldling, with the main difference being that I went to a lively church and 'prophesied' (Lord, have mercy!) in womens prayer meetings.

When I came across the teaching that salvation is all of God, and none of me, it sounded like some cultic teaching. But slowly, over the years, I began to see it in the scriptures. Didn't want to - I bristled every time - but I couldn't escape it.

I recall sitting on my bed one afternoon and suddenly, crushingly, becoming aware that if I died, I wouldn't dare face the Lord God with any of my works. I would want to hide myself entirely, and there would be no way to do that. It was then that it hit me sledge-hammer hard. I threw myself on His mercy and gratefully clung to the great work Christ did on the cross. What other possible hope did I have?

I began to truly love the cross, and the Lord who died and rose again for me. The utter relief of knowing that it had all been finished on that cross, so many years before, was wonderful. I read Pilgrims Progress around then for the first time, and the passage where Christian's burden falls from him remains my favourite, because I can still feel that weight falling off me.

I didn't have to wonder what would motivate me on my walk now. Sheer gratefulness propelled me at first, and the more I looked into the scriptures, the more I wanted to conform my life to His ways, free from the burden to 'at least be trying to be good'.

That's not to say it has become easy to be a Christian, of course not. It grates against my flesh daily. But it's the precious freedom I feel now, the knowledge that truly, nothing can pluck me from His hands and that sin cannot ultimately defeat me that holds me up, even when life wears me down.

I don't sound so reluctant now, and it's true, as life goes on, I find myself less and less reluctant about the truth that those 5 points are a shorthand for. But I didn't come willingly, and I hope that, if you're reading this and wouldn't come willingly either, you might be able to see something new today.

16 comments:

donsands said...

Somebody said, "We're all born Arminians".

Very edifying words. Thanks for sharing how you came to know His grace.

"How can I buy for a farthing that which cost many thousand talents of gold? The law, with all the works and righteousness thereof, is but as a farthing, if we compare it to Christ, who by His death has vanquished my death and has purchased righteousness and everlasting life." -Luther

Chris HH said...

Libbie: Good post.
God's grace is an amazing, humbling, yet liberating thing.

May I ask a straight question?

In your Calvinism / Monergism, is there a difference between not being able to do anything to merit salvation and not being able to do anything to receive salvation?

The first seems obvious from the scriptures, but the latter does not. God is sovereign over our decision to accept him, and our saving faith is a gift of grace, but we still had to do something in our genuine free-will.

I guess it boils down to this:
(a) How do you answer an unbeliever who says "What must I do to be saved?"
(b) How to you answer that same person after they accept Jesus, when they ask: "What did I do to be saved?"

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

I think the tendency of Calvinists to bring up the issue of pride when they discuss this issue is deeply unhelpful.

I suspect the reason so many Christians come to believe in Calvinism is that they are bombarded with the implication that the reason they are uncomfortable with Calvinism is because of pride.

It is anti-intellectual and ad hominem to make this inference. In my experience, Calvinists frequently seem to resort to a kind of emotional and moral blackmail when arguing for their theological position.

If you think that acceptance or rejection of unconditional predestination is down to pride, I would ask you whether you think that Muslims are less proud than Sikhs, because Muslims believe in predestination and Sikhs do not?

donsands said...

"I suspect the reason so many Christians come to believe in Calvinism is that they are bombarded with the implication that the reason they are uncomfortable with Calvinism is because of pride."

I don't suspect that at all.

I would say it's taking the whole of Scripture, and then hearing it say, "It's not to him who exherts himself, or to him who wills, but it's all about God, who shows mercy".

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Donsands

Well, funnily enough I have spent a lot of time studying the Bible and I believe Calvinism is largely incorrect. And I have read plenty of Reformed theology and had countless discussions with Calvinists as well.

You may think the reason for my rejection of Calvinism is that I am proud. That is fine, but I think you should avoid expressing that.

Why not? Because it is an ad hominem argument. It is moving from intellectual discussion of the issue to the realm of moral blame. I have found that when debating the issues of election and predestination, Calvinists make this implication that their opponents are proud and that is why they reject Calvinism.

It is moving the debate away from the meaning of the Scriptural texts and into the realm of moral blame. I think it is manipulative.

Young Christians who are not so familiar with the Scriptures are made to feel that they must accept this interpretation because if they do not, it shows they are proud and self-willed.

Is it the Non-Calvinists who are proud?

Might we not turn it around and suggest that actually it might be the Calvinists who are full of pride? Maybe they believe in Calvinism because they are proud of their intellectual objectivity and their willingness to believe something that other people find disturbing? But no, that would be a foolish track to go down.

I think it is necessary to leave the whole pride thing out of this and simply ask- 'What do the Scriptures say?'

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

Libbie said...

Right, woah there, Matthew. This is part of my personal testimony, not some clever attempt to argue an abstract intellectual point.

I made absolutely no comment about anyone else's motivation. I said that I knew that pride was at the heart of my initial rejection of grace. You may infer what you like from my testimony, but unless you are suggesting that I'm a liar, the rest of your criticism is completely ill-placed.

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Chris, I'll give your comment some more thought, if you don't mind.

Chris HH said...

Libbie, No problem at all.

I know we are touching on the outer limits of human understanding here - the mystery of sovereign grace and free will.

I have a lot of respect for the rigorous theology of Calvin, and especially his high regard for the sovereignty of God. My concerns are only in determining where human constructs stray beyond the limits set by divine truth.

donsands said...

"Calvinists make this implication that their opponents are proud and that is why they reject Calvinism."

This is true. And surely true from the other camp as well.

However, I don't feel that way about someone who interprets the Bible different than I.

When I read Ephesians 2, I see human beings as being spiritually dead, and 100% incapable of receiving Christ.
I have friends who disagree with me. Good friends, who are more studied in the Scriptures than I.

And we surely can have heated discussions, but we still respect and love one another.

I listen. I try to see his side. He says dead spiritually doesn't mean the same to him.
And we argue. And we end up disagreeing, and then we go and serve and worship the Lord by His grace, and give Him all the glory.

I hope that helps you understand that, though pride is in all of us, it's not always pin-pointed as the problem.

I hope that makes sense.

In His grace,
Don

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Libbie, if my comment came across as a criticism of you, I am sorry and you have my apologies.

But your testimony brings up the whole pride/rejection of Calvinism complex.

I do not know about your case, because I cannot read your mind, but I do suspect a lot of people come to accept the 'doctrines of Grace' because they are made to feel that if they reject them it is because they are proud. The rhetoric which so many Calvinists use just makes people feel guilty for being uncomfortable with their teaching.

So many people offer this same testimony:

'The reason I took so long to accept Calvinism was because of my pride.'

Is that really why they rejected Calvinism?

Might it not more likely be because they wanted convincing proof of these doctrines?

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Donsands, that is a good attitude.

But you quoted the statement about 'We are all born Arminians.'

This makes that same implication that it is our fleshly nature that wants to reject Calvinism. It is this rhetoric that leads to the whole guilt complex.

God Bless

Matthew

cath said...

Re Matthew's comments - there is a difference between intellectually accepting a set of doctrines such as "Calvinism", and experiencing the conviction that you can't bring anything to your own salvation and can only cling to Christ for mercy.

It's undoubtedly true that there are people who make that intellectual assent and then pride themselves on their humility for doing so. But the realisation that you are helpless and hopeless unless there is a Saviour who will do (or has done) *everything* necessary for your salvation, is very different (especially when it leads someone to actually entrust their soul's salvation to that Saviour).

I'd suggest that it's the second of these that people's "fleshly nature" is determined to resist, not necessarily the first at all.

cath

donsands said...

"But you quoted the statement about 'We are all born Arminians.'"

Well, we are, I believe. Or perhaps it was we are all saved as Arminians.
However, the point is that some don't stay that way.
Now, that may be bad from the Arminian's point of view, and that's quite alright.

I don't see the problem with this statement. Though any statement can be said with pride, there's no doubt.

I would suggest that when there is a gathering of Non-reformed brethern, and they discuss Calvinism, there may be some pride which rises to the surface.
I know this, because when I mingle with my Reformed buds, it happens to us.

Need to be on guard against pride.

I appreciate your input Matthew. Challenging one another is a good thing.
Iron sharpening iron.

Libbie said...

Thankyou for your apology, Matthew - I understand your concerns. I can speak for no-one else, but I know that basically, for me, it came down to being unwilling to accept that I did not have the casting vote.
As I mentioned in the post, I felt I would be unable to maintain the Christian walk if I didn't have that motivation behind me.

I was wrong. Others will no doubt have different accounts.

And apologies for my slightly out-of-sorts comment to you.

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Donsands
I think the 'We are all born Arminians' picture is kind of complicated by the fact that Muslims (today at least, in the past some Muslims took a different view) are overwhelmingly deterministic in their worldview. They believe in a works-salvation like other false religions, but they believe that all things are ultimately subject to the sovereign will of Allah. That a person is forgiven is entirely dependant on Allah's choice and a person might be rejected, even if they have been utterly faithful to their god.

Every Blessing in Christ

Matthew

donsands said...

God is sovereign Matthew. He shows mercy to whom He wills.

And Jesus manifested the mercy of God for all to behold.

What a merciful Father we do have.

And for any one, Jew, Gentile, or Muslim, then need to cry out to God for His mercy, and trust that Christ would accept them as the sinner that they are.

And all who come to Christ for acceptance with a heart of repentance, will not be cast away.

Jesus said, "Come unto Me all ..."

Dyspraxic Fundamentalist said...

Quite so, Donsands.

I like the way you are not going to be roused into a debate, and I dare say might Libbie appreciate that too.